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Hey there.

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In this video,

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we're looking at VETA's

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Working Under Direction

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Pack and how all of the

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templates and tools

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available in this pack can

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support VET providers to

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implement robust quality

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arrangements for the

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supervision of individuals

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who are working under

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direction and the general

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management of those arrangements.

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Now, before we get started,

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let's just have a couple of

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reflection questions and

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think about what's

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happening in your provider at the moment.

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How do you know that your

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system for monitoring those

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who are working under direction,

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including any industry experts,

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is effective?

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How do you monitor and

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review the performance of

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your staff to identify

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opportunities for

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improvement and also for

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professional development?

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How do you facilitate access

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to that professional

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development for your staff?

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And when we're talking about staff here,

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we're including those who

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may be working under direction.

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In this video,

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we are going to be looking

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at those arrangements for

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working under direction

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with the Standards for RTOs,

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and then looking again at

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how the VETA Working Under

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Direction Pack can be

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supporting providers to

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implement quality

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arrangements as they're

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using individuals working

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under direction.

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And there's a couple of

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places we need to be

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looking at in the Standards

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for RTOs when we're

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considering those who are

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working under direction.

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I'm just going to bring

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those standards up.

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In the first instance,

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I'd highlight that the

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definitions for personnel

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have changed under the standards for RTOs,

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twenty twenty five.

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So firstly,

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an assessor is an individual

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who determines a student's competency.

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So that would make sense in

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terms of the previous

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understanding direction.

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includes an individual providing oversight,

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guidance,

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and quality assurance to ensure

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the quality of training and

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assessment being delivered

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by another individual.

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So that's what we're talking

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about when we're saying

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working under direction.

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And then when we think about trainer,

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this is the interesting one

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that I wanted to call out.

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Trainer means a person who

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undertakes training for or

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on behalf of an RTO.

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Now,

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that doesn't mean that person needs to

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be qualified.

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I'll just say that again.

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That doesn't mean that

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person needs to be qualified.

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They are undertaking training.

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They may indeed be working under direction,

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undertaking training.

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So that definition for

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trainer has changed in the

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standards for RTOs,

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just something to be

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mindful of as we're

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thinking about the use of

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individuals working under direction,

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including industry experts.

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Now, in terms of the outcome standards,

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what we want to be looking

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at is quality area three,

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the vet workforce,

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and we're going to be

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sneaking down and looking

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particularly at standard three point two,

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but maybe also a quick

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sneak at three point three as well.

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So if we're looking at

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standard three point two here,

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we're talking about trainer

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and assessor competencies and again,

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remembering

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trainer doesn't necessarily

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need to be a qualified person.

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They could be an individual

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working under supervision.

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So training and assessment

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is delivered to VET

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students by credentialed

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people with current skills

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and knowledge in training and assessment.

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And the three performance indicators here,

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training and assessment is

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only delivered by persons

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who hold appropriate credentials,

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but where the credential

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permits a person to deliver

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any training under direction

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The organisation has systems

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in place that ensure the

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person does not make assessment judgments,

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may be supporting assessment,

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may be involved in the

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collection of evidence,

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but not making the assessment judgment.

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So again,

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back to that definition of assessor.

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And delivering quality

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training and assessment.

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Ensures all trainers and assessors, again,

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that word trainer is anyone

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doing delivery, not just assessors.

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So it could be anyone under direction,

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could be an industry expert,

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that's anyone doing

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deliveries captured by the word trainer,

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undertaking professional

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development to maintain

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current skills and

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knowledge in training and assessment,

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including skills and

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knowledge relating to

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engaging and supporting VET students.

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And then when we're thinking

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about outcomes standard three point three,

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training assessments

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delivered by persons with

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current industry skills and

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knowledge relevant to the

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training product.

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All persons delivering

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training or assessment have

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the industry competencies

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and skills required to be

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delivered or assessed and

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maintain an understanding

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of current industry practice.

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So there we've got that clarification.

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The definition for current

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industry skills has been repealed.

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under the Standards for RTOs,

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and in the Standards for RTOs ,

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we have this new concept of

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current industry skills.

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What we have to demonstrate

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is an understanding of

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current industry practices

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relevant to what we're delivering.

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And where we're engaging experts,

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for the delivery.

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We're doing so with

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reference to the training

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product or the student

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cohort in response to a

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specific need for that

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expert being engaged.

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And then again,

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we have a system in place

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for ensuring those industry

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competencies and skills and

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that they're only working,

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authorised to work under

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the direction of a person

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with the appropriate credentials.

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They may be involved in the

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assessment judgment,

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as I was just mentioning before,

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supporting assessment,

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collecting evidence,

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but they cannot undertake

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the assessment judgment.

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They may work alongside a

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qualified assessor to do

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that assessment judgment.

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So whether it's an industry

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expert or whether it's one

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of the other categories who

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can work under direction,

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there's a whole range of

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obligations there that we

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need to be thinking about

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in terms of the definitions for the terms,

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in terms of the expectations around

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who can do what under those

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definitions with the scope of practice,

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and then the system that we

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have in place for the

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supervision of those

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individuals under direction.

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How are we going about

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providing direction?

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Now,

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I'm going to leave it there because

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there's another document we

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also need to be looking at.

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As we're aware, the standards for RTOs,

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twenty twenty five come in

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three documents and the

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other document that's

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directly relevant to this area.

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And it was mentioned a

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couple of times in the

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outcome standards is the

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credentials policy.

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And there's a couple of

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areas that I want to be

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highlighting here.

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So we've got section one point C,

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actively working towards.

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Section one point D,

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training assessment under direction.

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And section one point E,

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providing direction,

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who can actually provide direction.

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So as we know, the credentials

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Policy has separated out a

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broad range of scope of

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practice now for VET personnel.

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There is also within the policy position,

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we're not going to be

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looking at it in this short overview,

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but keeping in mind there's

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also specific arrangements

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for those who are involved

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in the delivery of TAE.

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under direction and also

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those who are providing

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direction when we're

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talking about the delivery

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of tae let's have a look at

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actively working towards so

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a person who is actively

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working towards training in

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this a training and

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assessment credential can

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deliver training and can

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also contribute to

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assessment as long as they

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are under the direction of

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the trainer and assessor

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In terms of being actively working towards,

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they need to be enrolled in

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either the Certificate IV

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or the Diploma

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qualification and be making

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satisfactory progress, as we're aware.

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One D,

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this is further training and

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assessment under direction.

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Any person who holds any of

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the credentials listed can again...

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and contribute to assessment

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under the direction of a

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trainer and assessor.

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They're not permitted to

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make the assessment judgment,

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but they can absolutely be

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involved in the assessment,

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including collecting assessment evidence.

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And we've got a broad list

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of qualifications here,

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primarily skill sets.

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All of these skill sets

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provide the opportunity for

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an individual to work under direction,

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and that also includes a

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secondary teaching qualification.

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Now we do have a definition

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for secondary teaching qualification,

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go off and find that in the

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standards as well.

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And importantly,

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if we're using any of those situations,

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skill sets or secondary

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school teaching qualification,

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the RCO must justify the

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relevance of that credential,

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to the student cohort.

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So for example,

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you would expect that if

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you're relying on a

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secondary teaching

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qualification for that

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person to work under direction,

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that they would be

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delivering to secondary school students.

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So we're connecting those

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credentials directly to the

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VET student cohort that

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we're delivering to.

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And then the third section I

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just wanted to mention here

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as well is the requirements

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for those who are providing direction.

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So a trainer and assessor

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who satisfies these

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requirements can provide direction.

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They are responsible for

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providing oversight,

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guidance and quality assurance.

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So they're ensuring the

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quality and assessment of

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the delivery of the person

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that they're supervising

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that is under their direction.

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And to be in that situation,

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you must have one of the

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Certificate IV

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qualifications or the

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secondary teaching

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qualification with the

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relevant skill set or a

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diploma or higher level

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qualification in adult

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education or vocational

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education training.

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So those are the individuals

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in general who can be

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providing direction for all

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of these other individuals

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who may be working towards,

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actively working towards,

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or may hold one of those skill sets,

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or may be an industry

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expert engaged for a specific purpose,

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as we were looking at in

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the description in the

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outcome standards earlier.

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So there we have it.

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Those are the requirements

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for the standards for RTOs,

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when we're looking at this

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area of working under

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direction and keeping in mind,

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this is all within the lens

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of self-assurance.

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That's the way that

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providers are managing

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their operations with a focus on quality,

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including compliance and

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continuous improvement or

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that ongoing quality improvement.

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Now, I'm just going to pause there.

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Let's keep that concept in

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the first instance.

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How are we going about

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managing our operations?

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And let's go across to the

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VEDA working under direction pack.

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And I've got the pack up here.

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I know this is small text.

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I'm going to be going

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through all of the major

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documents as part of

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this overview,

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and there are seventeen key

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templates and tools

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available in this pack.

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And as you'd expect,

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we're talking about a

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system and processes.

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And as a starting point,

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we need to be documenting

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that system and processes.

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And we typically are doing

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that in policy positions.

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So there's two policy

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positions here that I want

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to look at in the first instance.

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We've got our vet personnel

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requirements policy.

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You can see there we've got

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the changes marked up.

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Whenever there's a new version released,

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we do mark up the changes.

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Remember,

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you get all updates free ongoing.

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So every time there's an update,

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you can download the latest

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version of the resource

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pack and you've got the

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changes marked up.

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Very handy for you to be

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able to be making those

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improvements within your organisation.

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So with all of our VETA policy positions,

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we follow the same format

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across all of the PACs.

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We've got the policy purpose,

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then we've got the policy scope.

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We include authoritative

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terms and definitions from

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the standards for RTOs,

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and other sources where relevant.

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And then we go into the

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commitments for the organisation.

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We also have a rationale in

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all of our policy positions.

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What is this?

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This is a summary.

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or a justification for how

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you're going about approaching this area.

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In this case,

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the area that we're talking about,

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your vet personnel,

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all of that broad scope of

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practice of all of your vet personnel.

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And this introduces the

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concept of a vet personnel

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requirements matrix.

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Who are your vet personnel?

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Your trainers, your assessors,

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your industry experts,

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those working under direction,

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your validators, the list goes on.

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So those vet personnel,

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what are their requirements?

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and then the matrix to

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demonstrate how they are

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meeting those requirements.

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That's why we're using that term,

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VET Personnel Requirements Matrix,

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directly related to the

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standards for RTO's Twenty

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Twenty-Five terminology.

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And then we've also got the

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supervision plan.

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So those that are under

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direction must be supervised,

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and you've got a

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supervision plan in place for that.

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So we'll keep going through.

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I'm not going to go through

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this whole policy,

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but just quickly flying

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through appropriate

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personnel for services

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delivery and how we're

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determining our organisational structure.

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And again,

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you'll see as we're going

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through the policy position,

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the referencing off to other policies.

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So we're noting important

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information around vet

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personnel requirements,

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but we're also referencing

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off to other policy

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positions where they have

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the full detail.

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We don't want to keep

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replicating information

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over and over in our policy positions.

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how we're using industry

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engagement advice and feedback,

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the VET personnel requirements,

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and then we're going into

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two different sections.

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We've got the section

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covering the requirements up to June,

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thirty twenty twenty five

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under the standards for

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RTOs twenty fifteen.

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And then we have the second

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section for the standards for RTOs,

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that are commencing from

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the first of July, .

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So you can see in the policy position,

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we're compliant with the

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standards to June,

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and then we're compliant

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with the standards from the .

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So we've got both of those

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sections in there.

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We've got all those

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definitions and requirements, again,

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actively working towards what credentials,

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assessment-only credentials,

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delivery of TAEs included in here as well,

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all those specific requirements,

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providing direction and

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what the expectations are,

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and then the effective supervision.

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How are we actually going about that?

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How are we making sure that

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we're managing the quality

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of our assessment decisions, validation,

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and the list goes on.

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So our VET personnel

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requirements policy is covering all of

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the VET personnel requirements,

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including those who are

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working under direction or

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those who are providing direction.

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The second policy position I

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just want to quickly cover

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is our CPD policy.

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Again,

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you'll see the same format in our

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VETA policy format.

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We've got the rationale

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there and we've got a

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policy position that covers all staff

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all their personnel,

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and that includes industry

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experts and that includes

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your third party personnel

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as well and what those

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requirements are and the implementation.

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As we know,

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we're required to have an

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annual CPD plan in place

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and we need to be ensuring

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that that CPD is occurring.

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So we're collecting reports

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on the CPD that's happening

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and logging all and

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tracking and managing that

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in our CPD register.

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So we've got a couple of key

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policy positions there on

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how are we going about

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managing our operations for

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self-assurance under the

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standards for RTOs,

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so we talked about two policy positions.

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The next thing that I just

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want to quickly highlight

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are those vet personnel

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requirements matrix documents.

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And there's three here

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included in this pack.

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We've got the industry vocational matrix,

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We've got the credential

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matrix and then we've also

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got the industry expert matrix.

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I'm just going to quickly

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demonstrate the credential

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matrix so you can get a

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feel for what's going on.

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What this is doing is

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documenting the scope of practice.

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So again, we've got two sections.

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We've got the requirements

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for the twenty fifteen

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standards and I'm just

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going to quickly fly

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through those and let's get

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to the requirements for the

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twenty twenty five

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standards and we'll use

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that for the demonstration.

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And here they are.

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So requirements from the first of July,

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twenty twenty five.

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So we've got the

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descriptions and terms in

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there that we need to be defined.

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We've got the scope of

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practice for a vet trainer and assessor.

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including the expectation of

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how you're demonstrating a

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strong understanding of the

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principles and assessment

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and rules of evidence,

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remembering that those have

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all changed in the standards for RTOs,

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and the policy guidance

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requires that demonstration

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from all VET trainers and assessors.

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We also have those that may

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be an individual under

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direction working towards TAE,

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an individual under

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direction using a skillset

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or their secondary teaching

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qualification,

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trainers who are providing direction,

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assessors, TAE trainers,

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individuals who are working

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under direction for the delivery of TAE,

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and people who are

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providing direction for

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those who are delivering

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TAE under direction.

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So you can see that really

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significant scope of practice.

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We haven't included industry expert.

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We haven't included validator in there.

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There are other expectations as well.

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We've got other matrixes for those,

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but really capturing what

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is the scope of practice

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that you're saying you're

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qualified for and you're

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seeking to be approved for.

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And then we've also got a

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section here that is

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seeking to get your vet

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knowledge and skills currency,

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that training and assessment practices,

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skills and strategies,

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including skills and

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knowledge relating to

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engaging and supporting students.

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How are you doing your CPD?

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relating to that,

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and we're aligning the CPD

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to the core units from the

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TAE-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A

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Then we have the manager approval,

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where the manager is going through,

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completing the confirmation

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of all of that information,

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and then determining what

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is the scope of practice

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that this individual is

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being approved for.

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Are they under direction?

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Are they a fully fledged

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trainer and assessor in their own right?

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Are they going to be

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providing direction to others, et cetera?

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Are they going to be

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delivering in the TAE?

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So you're confirming and

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approving the scope of

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practice for that particular individual.

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So as I mentioned,

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in our working under direction pack,

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we have three of those matrix documents.

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We've got the credential

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document to be capturing

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that starting point.

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We've also got the industry

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vocational matrix to be

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capturing those industry

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vocational skills and

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competencies that you must demonstrate.

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before delivery,

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and then we've got a

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separate version of that

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for industry experts where

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you're using industry experts.

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So how are we going about

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managing our operations?

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We've got our policy

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positions that are

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documenting our systems and processes.

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We've got those matrix

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documents that are bringing

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forward the documentation

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and the information we need

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to be confirming the scope

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of practice and approving

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our vet personnel for use.

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We also have a couple of

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other tools here that I'll

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just mention quickly.

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We have a confirmation of

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documentation record.

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So this is where the manager

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is verifying the employment

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history or the manager is

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authenticating the AQF

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certification documentation

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that's been provided by VET personnel.

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So we have a record there

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for you to be confirming how you're doing,

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recording how you're doing

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those verifications and

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those authentications as

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you're undertaking those activities.

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We also have a CPD planning

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tool that's provided in the

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pack quite extensive,

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talking about CPD and

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pulling out really a best

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practice approach,

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that goal setting and planning,

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strengths and improvements required,

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priorities in your job role, expectations,

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short and long-term priorities,

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expectations in your

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specific role and

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responsibilities document

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or your job position description,

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and then capturing that training.

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And we also have a very,

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very short planning summary as well,

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where you can be capturing

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that planning for the focus

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areas as perhaps as a group, or again,

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be using that with individuals.

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So there's a couple of CPD

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implementation documents

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there that you might find really useful.

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We then have three key

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documents for you to be

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implementing that robust

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supervision arrangement.

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And the first one is the supervision plan.

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And we can see here who is

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being supervised, who's the supervisor,

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who's doing the providing direction.

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And then what are the goals

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of the arrangement,

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the level of supervision required,

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the conditions and restrictions,

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the performance feedback

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that's going to be given,

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the feedback that we're

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going to be getting back

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from the supervisee,

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how we're going to be

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monitoring and reviewing that plan,

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making adjustments to that plan.

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So that's all signed off.

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And we've also provided some

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evaluation benchmarks as well.

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So as you're setting up that planning,

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really getting into the fine.

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It's not just being done for

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compliance purposes.

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This is something that's

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underpinning the quality of

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your service delivery and

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also developing the

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individual that is under direction.

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So we've given quite

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considerable thought to how

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to be making sure that's a

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really effective document,

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not just something that

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you're doing for compliance purposes.

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So I've got the planning in place.

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We then have a supervision schedule.

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And this is again where

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you're scheduling out over

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a three month period.

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how are you going to be and

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when you're going to be

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undertaking the supervision activities.

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And we've got some examples

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here of what kinds of

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supervision activities you

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might be doing.

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And then you're scheduling

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out over that three month period,

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the dates and times each

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week that you're engaging

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in that supervision of the

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person who is working under direction.

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And then the third document

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that we've got here is the

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recording of that

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supervision when it happens.

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So each time that

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supervision is scheduled

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and you're meeting with the

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individual that you're

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providing direction for,

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or you're meeting the

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individual who is working under direction,

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we have that supervision record.

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Again, we've got categorisation there.

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to be able to be effectively

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recording these as they're

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happening and also be able

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to do that data analysis

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coming out of the activity.

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You can see the summary here.

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We might be updating the supervision plan.

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We might be confirming

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satisfactory progress for

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those that are working towards.

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and be talking about the

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feedback from both parties,

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the goals for the coming period,

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and then the next supervision.

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So really recording what's

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happening with that supervision,

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also helping with that planning,

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the updating of the

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supervision plan and the

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planning of those ongoing

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supervision sessions.

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So three key documents there

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that hopefully you'll find really,

00:22:02.882 --> 00:22:03.541
really useful in

00:22:03.642 --> 00:22:04.903
implementing that quality

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approach to supervision for

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individuals who are working

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under direction.

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Now,

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we know that the definition for

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self-assurance has that second half.

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It's about also providers

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having systems in place to

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critically examine their performance,

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what they're doing,

00:22:22.313 --> 00:22:23.973
and to critically examine their outcomes,

00:22:24.074 --> 00:22:25.314
what they're achieving with

00:22:25.334 --> 00:22:26.074
their stakeholders.

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That's happening on an

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ongoing basis and it is

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driving your improvement.

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So we are required to have

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that systematic monitoring

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and evaluation in place as

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per outcome standard,

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four point four of the standards for RTOs,

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twenty twenty five,

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that outcome standard is

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enacting this self-assurance.

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We do need to understand the

00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:47.099
outcomes that we're aiming to achieve,

00:22:47.441 --> 00:22:49.101
and we need to have indicators in place,

00:22:49.141 --> 00:22:50.281
performance indicators for

00:22:50.321 --> 00:22:51.501
our performance and outcome

00:22:51.541 --> 00:22:52.742
indicators for our outcomes,

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and we need to measure

00:22:53.843 --> 00:22:55.202
those and track those to

00:22:55.243 --> 00:22:56.084
make sure that we are

00:22:56.144 --> 00:22:58.144
progressing against those outcomes.

00:22:58.484 --> 00:22:59.105
We need to have data

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collection methods and

00:22:59.964 --> 00:23:01.665
tools in place in

00:23:01.726 --> 00:23:02.846
collecting the data for

00:23:02.885 --> 00:23:03.967
analysis and also

00:23:04.027 --> 00:23:05.567
collecting feedback from a

00:23:05.646 --> 00:23:06.468
wide variety of

00:23:06.567 --> 00:23:08.808
stakeholders to support our

00:23:08.848 --> 00:23:10.328
monitoring and evaluation activities.

00:23:10.409 --> 00:23:12.009
We need to be doing ongoing monitoring

00:23:12.490 --> 00:23:14.171
of our activities and our operations,

00:23:14.191 --> 00:23:14.931
and we need to be doing

00:23:14.951 --> 00:23:16.070
that periodic review to

00:23:16.131 --> 00:23:17.811
evaluate that critical

00:23:17.872 --> 00:23:20.212
examination of the effectiveness of,

00:23:20.353 --> 00:23:22.673
there's that quality word, of our systems,

00:23:22.773 --> 00:23:24.013
processes and practices.

00:23:24.034 --> 00:23:25.013
And all of those monitoring

00:23:25.034 --> 00:23:26.115
and evaluation activities

00:23:26.154 --> 00:23:27.035
need to be reported

00:23:27.654 --> 00:23:28.695
to our stakeholders.

00:23:28.736 --> 00:23:30.115
We're doing those communications,

00:23:30.155 --> 00:23:31.757
including to our governing persons,

00:23:32.096 --> 00:23:33.117
so that our governing body

00:23:33.157 --> 00:23:34.778
can be making informed decisions.

00:23:35.318 --> 00:23:37.240
And we're also using all of

00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:38.780
that information to be

00:23:38.881 --> 00:23:39.921
making improvements to our

00:23:39.961 --> 00:23:41.301
services delivery and

00:23:41.501 --> 00:23:43.363
adjusting our systems along the way.

00:23:43.823 --> 00:23:45.284
So there's that step change

00:23:45.644 --> 00:23:47.566
in the standards for RTOs,

00:23:47.605 --> 00:23:49.527
quite a huge additional

00:23:49.846 --> 00:23:51.608
expectation and focus on

00:23:51.888 --> 00:23:53.269
systematic monitoring and

00:23:53.289 --> 00:23:55.171
evaluation of each of the

00:23:55.310 --> 00:23:58.073
operating functions of your provider.

00:23:59.118 --> 00:24:00.340
So when we're thinking about

00:24:00.401 --> 00:24:02.923
the operating function of VET personnel,

00:24:02.963 --> 00:24:04.005
we're in HR and we're

00:24:04.045 --> 00:24:05.266
talking about VET personnel,

00:24:05.606 --> 00:24:06.567
and specifically when we're

00:24:06.607 --> 00:24:08.329
talking about working under supervision,

00:24:08.410 --> 00:24:09.731
what do we have in place in

00:24:09.771 --> 00:24:11.294
the VETA PAC to support

00:24:11.314 --> 00:24:12.615
this systematic monitoring

00:24:12.634 --> 00:24:13.336
and evaluation?

00:24:13.797 --> 00:24:14.718
In the first instance,

00:24:14.778 --> 00:24:15.357
I'll bring up our

00:24:15.479 --> 00:24:16.839
performance and outcome

00:24:16.900 --> 00:24:17.942
monitoring document.

00:24:18.442 --> 00:24:19.942
So we do have one of these

00:24:19.982 --> 00:24:21.683
in each of our VETA packs now,

00:24:21.723 --> 00:24:23.384
and this is a framework,

00:24:23.565 --> 00:24:24.684
a starting point for you to

00:24:24.704 --> 00:24:25.605
be customising and

00:24:25.645 --> 00:24:26.945
tailoring for that

00:24:27.006 --> 00:24:28.586
systematic monitoring and

00:24:28.626 --> 00:24:30.587
evaluation within your organisation.

00:24:30.948 --> 00:24:31.768
And you can see we've got

00:24:31.827 --> 00:24:33.308
our performance indicators

00:24:33.348 --> 00:24:34.250
and outcome indicators,

00:24:34.269 --> 00:24:35.190
and we've got our targets,

00:24:35.509 --> 00:24:37.371
but we do start with quality objectives.

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What's the overall outcome?

00:24:39.291 --> 00:24:40.292
that you're aiming to achieve.

00:24:40.333 --> 00:24:41.153
We refer to that as a

00:24:41.193 --> 00:24:42.234
quality objective because

00:24:42.255 --> 00:24:42.954
that's international

00:24:42.994 --> 00:24:44.876
standard ISO nine thousand one.

00:24:44.957 --> 00:24:45.416
As you know,

00:24:45.837 --> 00:24:47.138
all of our VETA packs are also

00:24:47.199 --> 00:24:48.839
aligned to international

00:24:48.940 --> 00:24:50.221
standards for that quality

00:24:50.261 --> 00:24:51.321
practice where the

00:24:51.362 --> 00:24:53.463
standards exist in these areas.

00:24:53.964 --> 00:24:54.585
Let's have a look at a

00:24:54.625 --> 00:24:56.186
couple of examples here.

00:24:57.509 --> 00:24:59.371
I'll just have a look at,

00:25:00.090 --> 00:25:01.553
we'll do the first one here.

00:25:02.334 --> 00:25:03.755
Ensure personnel are

00:25:03.815 --> 00:25:05.436
equipped to contribute to

00:25:05.457 --> 00:25:06.698
the delivery of quality

00:25:07.137 --> 00:25:08.900
industry relevant training.

00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:10.320
So we're ensuring that our

00:25:10.361 --> 00:25:11.761
personnel are equipped to

00:25:11.942 --> 00:25:13.584
do that quality industry

00:25:13.624 --> 00:25:14.325
relevant training.

00:25:14.724 --> 00:25:15.306
The indicator,

00:25:15.645 --> 00:25:17.067
stakeholder feedback on the

00:25:17.106 --> 00:25:18.388
relevance of training delivery.

00:25:19.028 --> 00:25:21.289
That is an outcome indicator

00:25:21.369 --> 00:25:23.651
because it's getting the impact,

00:25:23.891 --> 00:25:25.432
the outcome for our stakeholders.

00:25:25.491 --> 00:25:26.211
So it's about our

00:25:26.291 --> 00:25:27.393
stakeholders and the target,

00:25:27.732 --> 00:25:28.792
achieve ninety percent

00:25:29.192 --> 00:25:31.273
positive feedback in stakeholder surveys.

00:25:31.294 --> 00:25:32.494
Let me use another example.

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Frequency, so second one here,

00:25:35.375 --> 00:25:36.855
ensure effective oversight,

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guidance and quality assurance provided,

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direct reference to the standards there,

00:25:40.758 --> 00:25:42.057
in respect of an individual

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working under direction.

00:25:43.618 --> 00:25:44.960
So the indicator,

00:25:45.140 --> 00:25:46.540
frequency of oversight and

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guidance sessions conducted

00:25:48.383 --> 00:25:49.864
for personnel under direction.

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That's a performance

00:25:50.845 --> 00:25:51.765
indicator because it's

00:25:51.785 --> 00:25:52.605
about what we're doing.

00:25:52.625 --> 00:25:54.126
It's the frequency of what we're doing,

00:25:54.287 --> 00:25:55.468
the frequency of the sessions.

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And we're saying that

00:25:57.009 --> 00:25:58.809
conduct oversight sessions

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as scheduled for all

00:26:00.191 --> 00:26:01.251
personnel under direction.

00:26:01.653 --> 00:26:03.374
So the target is saying as scheduled.

00:26:03.653 --> 00:26:04.634
We need to have a schedule.

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That schedule needs to be

00:26:05.816 --> 00:26:07.396
appropriate and we'll be justifying that.

00:26:07.957 --> 00:26:09.920
And we're checking that the

00:26:10.099 --> 00:26:12.323
sessions as scheduled are occurring.

00:26:12.442 --> 00:26:13.844
So that is the target.

00:26:14.265 --> 00:26:15.567
Won't spend too much more time on that,

00:26:15.586 --> 00:26:16.948
but hopefully you've found that useful.

00:26:17.429 --> 00:26:19.131
So we've got that framework

00:26:19.151 --> 00:26:20.332
in place for your

00:26:20.372 --> 00:26:22.255
systematic monitoring and assurance.

00:26:22.815 --> 00:26:24.596
We also then have a number

00:26:24.817 --> 00:26:26.440
of documents in the pack.

00:26:27.642 --> 00:26:29.202
to support you for the

00:26:29.222 --> 00:26:31.604
collection of information

00:26:31.644 --> 00:26:32.924
for those working under direction.

00:26:33.005 --> 00:26:34.965
I'll call out a couple here.

00:26:35.366 --> 00:26:37.067
The first one is a trainer

00:26:37.188 --> 00:26:38.509
observation evaluation.

00:26:39.088 --> 00:26:40.609
So as part of your supervision,

00:26:41.029 --> 00:26:41.770
you might be doing a

00:26:41.851 --> 00:26:43.892
self-assessment with the trainer

00:26:44.451 --> 00:26:45.711
or indeed you might be doing

00:26:46.032 --> 00:26:49.153
a supervised observation

00:26:49.413 --> 00:26:50.993
and assessment of the

00:26:51.034 --> 00:26:52.013
trainer's performance.

00:26:52.355 --> 00:26:53.174
So we've included that

00:26:53.234 --> 00:26:54.275
trainer observation

00:26:54.315 --> 00:26:56.236
evaluation to be supporting

00:26:56.276 --> 00:26:57.695
that monitoring activity.

00:26:58.316 --> 00:26:58.957
And as I said,

00:26:58.997 --> 00:27:01.116
that self evaluation and

00:27:01.277 --> 00:27:03.137
also that observation evaluation.

00:27:03.698 --> 00:27:04.818
And what we've also included

00:27:04.898 --> 00:27:06.259
here is a stakeholder

00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:07.980
survey for working under direction.

00:27:08.020 --> 00:27:09.903
Now, within all of our VETA packs now,

00:27:09.942 --> 00:27:11.564
we have stakeholder surveys.

00:27:11.963 --> 00:27:13.445
We deliberately call them

00:27:13.806 --> 00:27:15.426
stakeholder surveys because

00:27:15.866 --> 00:27:17.469
they are designed to be

00:27:17.568 --> 00:27:19.170
used across your stakeholders.

00:27:19.269 --> 00:27:20.451
You might be using these

00:27:20.830 --> 00:27:21.451
with students,

00:27:21.751 --> 00:27:23.211
you might be using them with personnel,

00:27:23.271 --> 00:27:24.472
you might be using them with employers,

00:27:24.492 --> 00:27:25.173
you might be using them

00:27:25.192 --> 00:27:26.253
with community representatives.

00:27:26.273 --> 00:27:28.535
So they're designed for specific purposes,

00:27:29.315 --> 00:27:31.036
but as stakeholders are

00:27:31.115 --> 00:27:33.136
generic for that purpose to be used,

00:27:33.458 --> 00:27:35.018
whether you're using them in print,

00:27:35.117 --> 00:27:35.858
using them online,

00:27:35.878 --> 00:27:36.598
whether you use them in

00:27:36.618 --> 00:27:37.359
your focus groups,

00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:39.280
you're doing them annually,

00:27:39.320 --> 00:27:39.981
whether you're doing them

00:27:40.162 --> 00:27:41.762
on an ad hoc basis to be

00:27:41.803 --> 00:27:43.344
collecting that feedback

00:27:43.384 --> 00:27:43.924
you need from your

00:27:43.964 --> 00:27:45.086
stakeholders for your

00:27:45.125 --> 00:27:46.307
monitoring and evaluation.

00:27:46.727 --> 00:27:47.867
And all of our better

00:27:47.907 --> 00:27:50.329
surveys have the four point Likert scale.

00:27:50.369 --> 00:27:52.432
We're forcing a negative or

00:27:52.471 --> 00:27:53.712
strongly negative or we're

00:27:53.732 --> 00:27:55.193
forcing a positive or

00:27:55.233 --> 00:27:56.454
strongly positive response

00:27:56.816 --> 00:27:58.576
for that data analysis.

00:27:58.916 --> 00:28:00.499
So you can see they're not a huge survey.

00:28:00.898 --> 00:28:02.319
but key questions directly

00:28:02.380 --> 00:28:04.842
related to your outcomes

00:28:04.882 --> 00:28:05.801
your monitoring and

00:28:05.821 --> 00:28:07.242
evaluation directly related

00:28:07.282 --> 00:28:08.483
obviously to the standards

00:28:08.503 --> 00:28:11.346
for rto's so we've got some

00:28:11.405 --> 00:28:12.567
monitoring tools in there

00:28:12.666 --> 00:28:13.728
we've got some survey

00:28:13.768 --> 00:28:15.028
collection tools the other

00:28:15.067 --> 00:28:16.328
big one that I want to

00:28:16.368 --> 00:28:18.190
mention is our internal

00:28:18.411 --> 00:28:20.711
audit tool and all of the

00:28:20.751 --> 00:28:22.452
better packs again now have

00:28:22.633 --> 00:28:23.574
internal audit tools in

00:28:23.594 --> 00:28:24.954
place this is how you do

00:28:25.375 --> 00:28:26.635
your evaluation your

00:28:26.675 --> 00:28:27.936
critical examination of

00:28:27.957 --> 00:28:29.478
your outcomes you do an internal audit

00:28:30.259 --> 00:28:31.599
And all of our internal

00:28:31.660 --> 00:28:32.780
audits are also aligned to

00:28:32.800 --> 00:28:33.781
the international standard

00:28:33.902 --> 00:28:35.242
ISO-Nineteen-thousand-eleven

00:28:35.583 --> 00:28:37.625
guidance for auditing management systems.

00:28:37.644 --> 00:28:39.287
So you've got a quality approach.

00:28:39.586 --> 00:28:40.327
And you can see here the

00:28:40.347 --> 00:28:41.348
audit tool starts off with

00:28:41.368 --> 00:28:42.029
the audit plan.

00:28:42.049 --> 00:28:43.590
We've got the objectives and scope,

00:28:44.050 --> 00:28:45.071
how the audit's going to

00:28:45.132 --> 00:28:46.354
occur on the left-hand side.

00:28:46.374 --> 00:28:47.193
And then we've got the audit

00:28:47.233 --> 00:28:49.876
criteria and we're targeting quality,

00:28:51.057 --> 00:28:51.798
effectiveness,

00:28:53.141 --> 00:28:55.205
And also compliance.

00:28:55.887 --> 00:28:56.930
And we've got the outcome

00:28:56.970 --> 00:28:58.153
standards compliance there.

00:28:58.192 --> 00:29:00.258
So with all of our internal auditing tools,

00:29:00.298 --> 00:29:01.800
we do have a quality audit.

00:29:02.691 --> 00:29:04.772
and we've also built in and

00:29:04.813 --> 00:29:06.734
provided a compliance audit

00:29:07.015 --> 00:29:07.796
so the tools can be

00:29:07.836 --> 00:29:09.336
separated if you wish or

00:29:09.778 --> 00:29:11.078
ideally would be used to

00:29:11.159 --> 00:29:12.279
complete both of those

00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:14.321
aspects we have also built

00:29:14.362 --> 00:29:16.064
in risk-based thinking so

00:29:16.124 --> 00:29:17.384
you can see here we've

00:29:17.404 --> 00:29:18.925
built in the risks that

00:29:18.945 --> 00:29:19.767
we're addressing with the

00:29:19.826 --> 00:29:20.647
audit and also the

00:29:20.667 --> 00:29:21.749
opportunities that the

00:29:21.808 --> 00:29:23.651
organisation is achieving from the audit

00:29:24.230 --> 00:29:25.771
We then have the records

00:29:25.791 --> 00:29:26.311
that we're going to be

00:29:26.332 --> 00:29:27.752
looking at in the sampling plan.

00:29:28.073 --> 00:29:29.153
We're familiar with sampling

00:29:29.193 --> 00:29:30.095
from validation.

00:29:30.255 --> 00:29:32.236
If you're an internal or external auditor,

00:29:32.655 --> 00:29:33.576
you'll know that sampling

00:29:33.616 --> 00:29:34.737
is not just for validations,

00:29:34.757 --> 00:29:35.817
for all auditing.

00:29:36.198 --> 00:29:37.618
So you do need to understand

00:29:37.959 --> 00:29:39.200
the sampling plan for the

00:29:39.259 --> 00:29:40.079
records that you're going

00:29:40.099 --> 00:29:41.000
to look at for the audit.

00:29:41.040 --> 00:29:42.080
And you can see here again,

00:29:42.102 --> 00:29:43.221
that risk-based approach,

00:29:43.521 --> 00:29:46.564
the risk-based factors that

00:29:46.584 --> 00:29:47.684
we're considering around

00:29:47.785 --> 00:29:48.744
individuals working under

00:29:48.765 --> 00:29:49.746
direction there on the left.

00:29:50.226 --> 00:29:51.626
And then that's helping us

00:29:51.666 --> 00:29:52.907
determine the sample size

00:29:52.928 --> 00:29:53.828
that we can be recording

00:29:54.328 --> 00:29:55.390
and the sampling approach

00:29:55.410 --> 00:29:56.510
that we're going to be recording.

00:29:56.971 --> 00:29:58.951
Then we go into the quality

00:29:59.172 --> 00:30:01.773
audit and you can see here, no surprises.

00:30:01.834 --> 00:30:02.954
We've got the quality

00:30:02.994 --> 00:30:04.296
objectives or the outcomes

00:30:04.316 --> 00:30:05.076
that we're aiming for.

00:30:05.537 --> 00:30:06.416
We've got the performance

00:30:06.458 --> 00:30:07.979
indicators and the outcome indicators.

00:30:07.999 --> 00:30:09.078
We've got the targets that

00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:10.160
we've worked with our

00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:11.520
stakeholders to set and

00:30:11.540 --> 00:30:12.561
that we're aiming to achieve.

00:30:13.001 --> 00:30:14.182
And then we've got the evidence.

00:30:14.603 --> 00:30:15.683
that the internal auditors

00:30:15.723 --> 00:30:17.285
are going to be accessing

00:30:17.545 --> 00:30:20.125
and reviewing and evaluating to determine,

00:30:20.326 --> 00:30:21.106
is this effective?

00:30:21.146 --> 00:30:21.747
Yes, no.

00:30:22.507 --> 00:30:24.929
And are there improvements

00:30:25.128 --> 00:30:26.308
or other recommendations or

00:30:26.348 --> 00:30:28.150
findings that we're going to make?

00:30:28.471 --> 00:30:30.392
So that's on the quality side.

00:30:30.571 --> 00:30:31.491
And then we have our

00:30:31.531 --> 00:30:33.093
compliance audit tool.

00:30:33.232 --> 00:30:35.875
And we know that in the VEDA portal,

00:30:36.035 --> 00:30:37.895
all in the VEDA resource packs,

00:30:38.076 --> 00:30:39.717
all of our compliance

00:30:39.797 --> 00:30:41.196
audits are in this same format.

00:30:41.577 --> 00:30:42.018
We've got

00:30:42.538 --> 00:30:44.180
the focus areas and any

00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:45.160
general information.

00:30:45.540 --> 00:30:46.300
We've got the relevant

00:30:46.421 --> 00:30:47.863
outcome standard and any

00:30:47.903 --> 00:30:49.084
background information.

00:30:49.624 --> 00:30:50.984
And then each performance

00:30:51.045 --> 00:30:52.846
indicator has its own table.

00:30:53.227 --> 00:30:53.547
Again,

00:30:53.586 --> 00:30:55.229
we include any relevant information

00:30:55.269 --> 00:30:56.450
for the performance indicator.

00:30:58.961 --> 00:30:59.462
In this case,

00:30:59.502 --> 00:31:00.423
quite a bit because we're

00:31:00.443 --> 00:31:01.724
talking about the credential policy.

00:31:02.365 --> 00:31:03.185
Then we've got the key

00:31:03.205 --> 00:31:05.407
questions that the auditors may ask.

00:31:05.749 --> 00:31:05.949
Very,

00:31:05.969 --> 00:31:08.010
very useful to be going through and

00:31:08.030 --> 00:31:09.451
collecting information for the audit.

00:31:09.652 --> 00:31:11.193
Useful for your team to be

00:31:11.233 --> 00:31:12.134
having that experience,

00:31:12.154 --> 00:31:12.895
to be making sure that

00:31:12.915 --> 00:31:13.536
they're comfortable with

00:31:13.556 --> 00:31:14.416
the audit process because

00:31:14.457 --> 00:31:15.278
it may be in future

00:31:15.417 --> 00:31:16.919
external auditors that are

00:31:17.019 --> 00:31:18.121
asking them these questions.

00:31:18.141 --> 00:31:19.082
So good to make sure that

00:31:19.102 --> 00:31:20.102
they can be answering them

00:31:20.663 --> 00:31:21.423
and we're getting the

00:31:21.443 --> 00:31:22.384
information that we need.

00:31:22.964 --> 00:31:24.366
And then we've got the

00:31:25.567 --> 00:31:26.710
evidence that's expected.

00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:28.211
We've got a free form

00:31:28.250 --> 00:31:29.112
section for you to be

00:31:29.152 --> 00:31:30.513
recording any further evidence,

00:31:30.854 --> 00:31:32.836
determining again that evaluation,

00:31:32.977 --> 00:31:33.817
is this effective?

00:31:34.719 --> 00:31:36.721
And am I going to have any

00:31:36.760 --> 00:31:37.662
improvements that I'm

00:31:37.701 --> 00:31:39.824
recommending in my findings?

00:31:40.887 --> 00:31:41.689
And then as I mentioned,

00:31:41.888 --> 00:31:42.710
each of the performance

00:31:42.750 --> 00:31:45.272
indicators has one of those tables.

00:31:45.813 --> 00:31:47.194
So we have quite extensive

00:31:47.315 --> 00:31:48.576
internal auditing tools now.

00:31:48.596 --> 00:31:49.297
You can see that one is

00:31:49.336 --> 00:31:50.538
sixteen pages long to

00:31:50.557 --> 00:31:51.799
capture that quality auditing,

00:31:51.819 --> 00:31:53.701
that critical examination and evaluation.

00:31:54.576 --> 00:31:55.557
of your self-assurance,

00:31:55.596 --> 00:31:56.778
achieving that quality and

00:31:56.917 --> 00:31:58.719
also having that compliance

00:31:58.919 --> 00:32:00.660
audit built into the tool.

00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:01.839
So there you have it.

00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:03.141
So we've got all of those

00:32:03.401 --> 00:32:04.540
templates and tools there

00:32:04.901 --> 00:32:06.602
for the management of your operations,

00:32:06.622 --> 00:32:07.582
setting up your systems,

00:32:07.642 --> 00:32:09.123
processes and implementing

00:32:09.502 --> 00:32:11.144
those effectively within your business.

00:32:11.584 --> 00:32:13.345
And then the systematic

00:32:13.404 --> 00:32:14.704
monitoring and evaluation,

00:32:14.765 --> 00:32:16.145
the performance and

00:32:16.385 --> 00:32:17.306
indicators and outcome

00:32:17.326 --> 00:32:18.267
indicators and how you're

00:32:18.287 --> 00:32:19.267
going to be measuring those

00:32:19.646 --> 00:32:20.827
and tools that help you

00:32:21.407 --> 00:32:23.409
in monitoring and collecting

00:32:23.509 --> 00:32:25.068
that stakeholder data and

00:32:25.108 --> 00:32:26.609
in completing that critical

00:32:26.650 --> 00:32:28.830
examination evaluation with

00:32:28.990 --> 00:32:30.971
your internal audit okay I

00:32:30.990 --> 00:32:31.771
hope you found that useful

00:32:31.811 --> 00:32:33.192
guys I'm going to finish up

00:32:33.231 --> 00:32:34.152
here just with some key

00:32:34.172 --> 00:32:34.772
points in the first

00:32:34.853 --> 00:32:35.873
instance you do have to

00:32:35.972 --> 00:32:36.712
understand the full

00:32:36.732 --> 00:32:38.233
requirements we are very

00:32:38.273 --> 00:32:39.213
concerned with the

00:32:39.233 --> 00:32:40.574
providers that we still see

00:32:40.614 --> 00:32:41.615
that don't understand the

00:32:41.654 --> 00:32:43.234
scope of practice and don't

00:32:43.255 --> 00:32:43.816
have effective

00:32:43.855 --> 00:32:45.256
documentation in place for

00:32:45.516 --> 00:32:47.777
their vet personnel overall let alone

00:32:48.396 --> 00:32:49.477
individuals who are working

00:32:49.517 --> 00:32:50.597
under direction this is one

00:32:50.637 --> 00:32:51.897
of the top non-compliances

00:32:52.258 --> 00:32:53.739
according to ASQA's last

00:32:53.858 --> 00:32:55.479
annual report you do really

00:32:55.558 --> 00:32:56.259
need to understand the

00:32:56.278 --> 00:32:56.979
requirements you need to

00:32:56.999 --> 00:32:58.380
have a strong leadership

00:32:58.420 --> 00:32:59.920
commitment to do this very

00:32:59.940 --> 00:33:01.560
very well to focus on that

00:33:01.601 --> 00:33:03.000
quality approach within

00:33:03.040 --> 00:33:03.980
your operations and then

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.662
you must put in place that

00:33:05.701 --> 00:33:06.981
framework and the processes

00:33:07.402 --> 00:33:09.462
around individuals working

00:33:09.502 --> 00:33:10.643
under direction and the

00:33:10.682 --> 00:33:11.502
individuals who are

00:33:11.522 --> 00:33:13.124
providing that direction making sure

00:33:13.584 --> 00:33:15.025
that you have the right support,

00:33:15.385 --> 00:33:16.886
the right trained personnel

00:33:17.166 --> 00:33:18.868
and the right process,

00:33:19.028 --> 00:33:20.390
including the documentation

00:33:20.430 --> 00:33:21.951
recording what it is that

00:33:21.971 --> 00:33:23.093
you're doing to show that

00:33:23.113 --> 00:33:24.374
that is an effective process.

00:33:24.634 --> 00:33:25.575
That may require some

00:33:25.634 --> 00:33:26.516
personnel training for

00:33:26.556 --> 00:33:27.876
those that are providing direction.

00:33:28.297 --> 00:33:29.377
You do need to still be

00:33:29.557 --> 00:33:31.099
looking out on the CPD for

00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:32.740
those that are under direction.

00:33:33.221 --> 00:33:34.061
And if you're using

00:33:34.122 --> 00:33:35.182
specialist team members

00:33:35.303 --> 00:33:36.423
like internal auditors,

00:33:36.443 --> 00:33:37.786
they absolutely need to be trained.

00:33:38.246 --> 00:33:39.165
in what they're doing and

00:33:39.207 --> 00:33:40.267
how to conduct and

00:33:40.287 --> 00:33:41.508
implement an effective

00:33:41.667 --> 00:33:43.888
internal audit as part of

00:33:43.909 --> 00:33:45.028
that systematic monitoring

00:33:45.048 --> 00:33:45.730
and evaluation.

00:33:46.150 --> 00:33:46.730
And through all of it,

00:33:46.849 --> 00:33:47.611
we're tracking and

00:33:47.651 --> 00:33:48.691
reviewing what's going on.

00:33:48.711 --> 00:33:49.751
We're identifying those

00:33:49.771 --> 00:33:50.932
improvements and we're

00:33:51.011 --> 00:33:52.073
implementing those to

00:33:52.113 --> 00:33:53.874
support the ongoing quality

00:33:54.213 --> 00:33:55.513
within the operations.

00:33:56.154 --> 00:33:57.494
I hope you found that useful, guys.

00:33:57.596 --> 00:33:58.635
I look forward to seeing you

00:33:58.935 --> 00:34:00.396
on an upcoming live session.

